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That's kind of what I was thinking about. If he had a vision of it and he knows that showing her how Aladdin and Jasmine's love survives will be one of the factors that causes her to give up evil in the future, then that would probably be worth it. If it's just something he wants to believe because he's in love with her... less forgivable, but still understandable. People in love do dumb things sometimes. 
Ah, his last two episodes! The others are:
The Prophet Motive - the only other ep with any Fasir backstory. We get to see him as a young man 1000 years ago and we see his brother. Do the Rat Thing - Very, very brief cameo. I wonder if Jasmine ever even figured out that was Fasir? The Sands of Fate Hero with a Thousand Feathers - He's a lot more helpful in these two, although in SoF he does profit from Aladdin's actions... |
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I wonder if his line at the end of the episode was in reference to him actually seeing Mirage come back to him or if it was merely his belief. I'm not sure if she ever would have. In her final appearance she didn't seem to have any second doubts about Phasir falling victim to the music box and thus her spell. I do wonder just how close they were back in the day. When reading Mirage's wikipedia entry I assumed that Phasir had broken her heart somehow. However after watching the episode and actually hearing Phasir's closing line I was a little surprised to read that it was the opposite, with her leaving him. Regarding Phasir, it certainly wouldn't be the first time someone had their own view of "good" that was perhaps, a bit self-centered. I kind of find it a little arrogant, reading about it. I've only seen Phasir in "Eye of the Beholder" and "While the City Sleeps". I should check out his other episodes sometime. |
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| Judging by his speech at the beginning of "Eye of the Beholder", I'd say he thinks of himself as being on the side of good; whether the means he uses justify his ends are debatable. We just don't know enough about him or what he's trying to do.
Just how much does he know about the future, anyway? It seems inconsistent from episode to episode. (And that's if he's telling the truth about what he sees.) |
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Perhaps he is more or less "neutral" in the grand scheme of things and wishes to impart some measure of humility and impartiality to everyone else, hero and villain alike? That would explain why he'd be willing to play the semi-antagonist/manipulator to Aladdin and company but still intervene on their behalf when they are in need of help. After all if he can see the future then that would have to have a very large effect on how he perceives the actions and attitudes of others. I should probably watch more episodes, too. |
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| Great point about Phasir's manipulation. Then again he does crazy stuff to the gang in other episodes, like tell Aladdin he's going to die, and turn Jasmine into a rat just to teach her a lesson. He seems to exist to put them through tests and then at the end he makes some wise statement about what they proved through succeeding.
But I've always been interested in the thought that Phasir is not really a friend of Aladdin and Jasmine or anyone for that matter, but just uses whatever and whoever's around for his mysterious ends (promoting good? maybe). |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:28 am Post subject: |
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"WHAT?" *Fasir explains self in some elaborate, philosophical way* "...oh, ok!  "
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| If this is considered grave-digging I apologize but I wanted to add an observation/opinion about this episode without making a new thread.
Does anyone else find Phasir's manipulation of Mirage, which put Aladdin and Jasmine through a lot of stress, anguish, and danger just a tad disturbing? I suppose that being that this is a kids cartoon you aren't supposed to think about things deeply like that but I can't help myself. What he did was extremely selfish. Not that Mirage doesn't deserve blame for being a psychopath, but Phasir I'm pretty sure knew what was going to happen. I don't recall Phasir appearing to Aladdin or Jasmine in this episode. Had Mirage been clever enough to point out that this was Phasir's challenge to Aladdin and company, how do you think they'd have reacted? |
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| Oh,yeah,I forgot about that,maybe they didn't saw that,I liked those Princess Collection tapes,it was the very early beginning of the Disney Princess line,I had Wish Upon A Starfish of Ariel and Jasmine's Wish of Jasmine. | |
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That's the one!  |
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I think Meesh is talking about when this episode was previously out on a Disney Princess video back in 1996. |
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| You mean the whole series? and yeah,only some people bought it,those parents just want Disney to be their kids's babysitter. | |
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| I wonder where all the complaints were when it first came on video 15 years ago... | |
| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Eye of the Beholder |
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| You do have a point (I think they saw the cute cover with Cinderella and Jasmine near and never thought that it's going to be something like this) I think they made her creepy and way too much like an animale thought they"re not fans who bought it for themselfs,they"re parents who bought this for thier kids,and I think that Jasmine as a snake will scare little boys too,I"m surprised that they didn't used Moonlight Madness because the whole werewolf girls story is like a fairy tale,twisted one but still,but parents whould complaine about the werewolf girls being too scary (Or maybe not because it's not Jasmine).
Sorta off topic,but I for a Disney Princess fan I don't have any of those Princess Stories DVDs,they"re just episodes of Aladdin and Little Mermaid shows that I already have seen and cheap stories using old clips from the original movies,I have Enchanted Tales that from what I heard the only DVD worth buying. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I had this episode on video (among a handful of others) when i was somewhere in the 4-6 years old range. I wasn't scared by her. I liked the idea of a guy loving his girl even through all that and despite her changes... Although I always found it funny that Aladdin turned into a snake WAY faster than Jasmine did.
Then again I've always been tougher than most girls in that area.
But hey. If they're scared, they're scared. I'm sure there were other ways to make her unnattractive without scaring little kids... but considering there have been a LOT more scary things happen in the series (Jafar snake? giant spiders? for example), I wouldn't have worried about it if I were in charge of that kinda thing. I think videos like this/growing up with Jasmine and Aladdin as my favorite toon characters has a lot to do with my high standards for guys. I'm not looking for a guy who never messes up, but I want a guy who loves me for me no matter what and who would be willing to do anything for me... And that's certainly not as unrealistic as many people would have you believe. And hey if he's got deep eyes, dark fun hair, a dreamy voice, and walks around showing off his smooth, toned chest... All the better |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Eye of the Beholder |
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Oh, yes. But the whole point is that Aladdin still loves her even though she's not beautiful; if they kept her beautiful it wouldn't be a real test, would it?  I understand she might be scary to young kids, and parents being upset that they weren't warned it might be scary, but they should be complaining about that, not that she's too scary.
This is what happens when Disney takes a series that was originally made for 10 year old boys and market it to 4 year old girls... |
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